Friday Open Thread

Clever Manka, · Categories: Open Thread

My holiday weekend gift to you is a reminder that Nick Offerman’s Yule Log video still exists. If you care to go to the YouTube page, there’s a comment near the top detailing the action of the entire 44 minute experience. You’re welcome. What else are you doing with your holiday weekend?

127 Responses to “Friday Open Thread”

  1. Crivens_the_hag says:

    Hello dearest Manka-friends! I have the day off! Yay! We are hauling our travelling circus to visit my in laws for the holiday. Hmmm. There will be wine! And as I am a dritbag, I brought my gigantic text book for next semester as a shield.
    Best wishes for a peaceful weekend. Or at least a mostly painless one.

  2. Doc_Paradise says:

    Sense8 and sous-vide. I got one of my partners an Anova machine and the plan is to sous-vide everything that is possible. Other partner found a recipe for sous-vide cheese cake. Will the wonders never cease?

    I'm seriously thinking about making a special 2016-Fuck-Off turnip burn just for my friends who want this year to die in a fire.

  3. CleverManka says:

    I'm considering getting really REALLY fucked up (like more than usual Friday-night-fucked-up) and binge eating or doing some yoga tonight. I guess I'm off work today at 4pm today–I could do both. An hour or so of yoga and then a big ol' glass (bottle) of something as reward! I really live the yogi path, y'all.

    Tomorrow the Burgomaster and I are spending most of the day with my BFFs and their parents (most of which live nearby). There will be much drinking since Tessa is fantastic with the cocktails and we're all of similar political leanings so it'll be safe to get hammered.

    Neither the Burgomaster or I care much about Xmas, and my parents sent me a Penzey's gift certificate (yay!) so not much to unwrap. He already bought me a new range this month (yay!) and I'm giving him a deep tissue massage on Sunday (mwa-ha-ha-ha).

    We finally saw Rogue One last night, and I was reminded that I have only a year to get out that Finn/Poe angstfest fic I wanted to write this time last year (before we have new canon that will invalidate my plot). Stupid lack of energy. *shakes tiny fist in anger*

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      I am admiring your commitment to getting fucked up. May all your plans succeed!

    • ru_ri says:

      Yay for good company and cocktails. Definitely recommend yoga BEFORE wine, I once went the other way and it ended poorly. In any case, please enjoy your excess to the utmost.

      Hooray for the new range, how is it, are you happy with it? Have you tried it for baking yet?

      • CleverManka says:

        Yeah, I tried yoga while high once and while it was hilarious, I can't recommend it.

        I am liking the new range, thank you! I haven't yet figured out how the convection setting is any better, but I haven't tried baking two things at the same time, yet (which I think is what it's supposed to excel at?). That's on the agenda for tonight, too–two loaves of banana bread. Also going to try the convection roast mode on Sunday with a chicken. The stovetop is amazing, though. Sooooo much hotter than my old one. I've had to be careful because I'm used to cooking everything on high and that just does not work with this one. Let me tell you everything about my new range thank you for asking =D

        • ru_ri says:

          Convection!?! Very nice…I have used it for pies plus bread and it works a lot better than regular–not faster necessarily but I no longer have to do the "mid-bake rack shuffle" that burns me nine times out of ten.

          The (gas) range at this house where I am house-sitting has weak burners and it's just killing me. I like to do a breakfast hash of stir-fried bacon, onion, carrot, garlic, sweet potato, and cabbage (with eggs on top), and I can't get the bacon properly crispy and I'm having trouble timing the egg addition. So I am experiencing range envy. I'd love to see a pic of your shiny new range just to know how bee-you-tee-ful it is!

          • CleverManka says:

            I had a pic on my phone that I snapped as soon as the delivery people left!
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            That breakfast hash sounds delicious. Have you tried baking the bacon? It takes a while (about 10-12 minutes each side at 350F) but baked bacon is so much better, IMO. Makes a cleaner grease, too, so it can be drained through a paper towel and used for sauteing vegetables.

          • CleverManka says:

            Oh HELL yes it's gas. I honestly refuse to cook on electric for anything more than a meal or two if I'm visiting somewhere. When I bought a house years ago (not the one I'm in now, sadly), I paid nearly a thousand dollars for someone to come out and run another gas line to my kitchen just so I could have a gas range.

          • Doc_Paradise says:

            I've never had one. It is top on M's kitchen wishlist but renting makes it hard to do that.

          • CleverManka says:

            I was so lucky to move into an apartment in an old house with an ancient gas range when I was in my 20s. It was probably a total health hazard but damn I loved that thing. Haven't used an electric range regularly since (and tbh I'm pretty terrible at it when I do).

            Super excited and happy for you that your sous-vide steak turned out so well!

          • LaxMom says:

            I can't even make grilled cheese on an electric. The year and some that we had to use an electric stove, the kids took over anything that wasn't boiled, I am that bad on electric.

          • ru_ri says:

            *fans self*

            That is beautiful!

            I will try baking bacon next time, thank you! I definitely would like to have bacon grease on hand for sauteing. On that note, I rendered the skin from a whole chicken the other day (because I needed to make chicken soup to kill this cold) and got about a cup of "liquid gold" that I have been using instead of my usual coconut oil. Delicious!

          • CleverManka says:

            Oh, wow, a cup of fat from one chicken? Tell me your secrets! I can barely get a cup of fat from a duck!

            I feel like maybe I could have a post sometime where I collect random kitchen tips (I really am a good cook–it's probably my strongest skill, way more so than writing) and people can post their own wisdoms in the comments.

          • ru_ri says:

            Shit I LIED, sorry (we had talked about getting a whole chicken but then my friend brought something else home) it was actually four halal chicken thighsandlegs from the market up the street. Some of them had the pope's nose still attached so I think there was extra extra in there. I was surprised at how much schmaltz they produced!

          • CleverManka says:

            Well, I still wouldn't mind a run down of your method! That's a good amount of fat from four leg quarters, even with pope's noses.

          • ru_ri says:

            I salted the thighs, skin-on, and rubbed about 2 tsp coconut oil all over them before roasting 40 minutes at 400. Drained the fat off that, removed the skins and chopped them and returned to the pyrex pan in the oven to render further while I boned the meat. Not sure how long I left it in. I know some people render in a saucepan which might be more efficient but I was just seat-of-the-pantsing it. I guess I need to do more research! (But it will have to wait until I am back in MI, because the resident vegetarian [whose cat and house I am sitting] expressed serious unhappiness with the entire proceedings [smell, concept, result], and they are returning this weekend.)

          • CleverManka says:

            Thank you for the details and OH VEGETARIANS

          • sherwood21 says:

            Wow!! That is a sexy, sexy appliance right there. The Brit would lose his mind over something like that. We had a gas range at the house on 5th street, and it was his favorite thing about that house.

          • CleverManka says:

            Gas stoves are THE BEST!

    • RoseCamelia says:

      I saw Rogue One this week, too. Enjoyed it very much.

      But there's a small detail that will not leave my brain. Senator Mon Mothma wears a large chain. Over her breasts. Right on top of her nipples. It seems so uncomfortable. I would have to alter my posture and my gait to avoid moving that damn thing. Why design it that way? Am I alone with these thoughts? It's OK. I'm used to solitude.

      • CleverManka says:

        Ha ha! I didn't even notice that. Perhaps she has a very well-padded bra? My biggest gripe was that none of the Anonymous Rebel Defectors (or whatever to call them) that boarded Rogue One with our heroes were women. Just…The Fuck? Seriously? Seriously???? No women soldiers in the rebellion willing to go against the decision of their coalitions. Okay, sure. Mmmhmm.

        • Kazoogrrl says:

          I am already having issues with the "how come Jyn can't have a lady in her close circle" that seems to be happening in the trailers. But, I'll live.

          • CleverManka says:

            Yeah, I just wanted to shake someone. Like, y'all were doing so well (comparatively)! COME ON. Ugh.

            I feel like maybe sometime early next year we should have an Open Thread To Discuss Rogue One because I bet a lot of us have Feelings about it.

          • Kazoogrrl says:

            Yes! I'm hoping to see if one night this coming week, to make up for the hell inventory week I'm going to have at work.

    • vladazhael says:

      I am wearing my Bodhi Rook t-shirt today. Because pilots.

      • CleverManka says:

        FUCK YEAH. I have a different ending for Bodhi that I don't want to post here because spoilers but ask me about it sometime after more people have had a chance to see it and I'll be happy to share it. Even my Professional Writer Friends agree it's a better ending and doesn't change the overall outcome of the story one bit.

  4. Rillquiet says:

    Horses and dim sum! The barn on Christmas Eve is a great reminder of why an otherwise out-of-options family would end up in a stable: Although the gas heating doesn't smell like Chanel No. 5 and the production process is sometimes noisy, the overall effect is warm and cozy. I'm also taking a friend's horse out on Christmas morning; he has a jaunty Santa hat that fits over one of his ears, so we'll see whether we can make anyone laugh as we stride out. (Then there will be xiaolongbao and bamboo shoots in chili oil and steamed buns with condensed milk and edamame with mustard greens and sugared peanuts with seaweed and picked wood ear mushrooms!)

    May you all enjoy the families, tipples, and warmth sources of your choice. Hugs and kind thoughts to everyone!

  5. Räven says:

    I am at my mother's, trying incredibly hard to be agreeable and not annoyed with her over every little thing. She forgot to renew her shellfishing license so we can't go out clamming til tomorrow, which is a shame as it is the most acceptable shared activity we have. I left town without remembering to transfer payments to my new health insurance plan and I don't know any of my passwords by heart, so I can't get a refund from previous plan (which prepaid itself before I switched) and am getting hysterical emails from the new plan but who require new unknown many account numbers to accept my $. In short, I am grouchy and having trouble shaking it off.

  6. Heathered says:

    Counseling appointment rescheduled to this morning and I have two houses to pet-sit at, a gig I took on when it was supposed to be sunny but cold all five days. It's pouring! And I'm doing this all on foot. Looking forward to getting it done and warming up after. In better news, my landlord left a big bag of organic nuts on my doorknob while I was at work yesterday! I might try to make almond milk.

    • CleverManka says:

      Boooo. I was thinking about your pet-sitting thing and wondering if it was over yet. GOOD LUCK. I hope you find a way to stay not-too-miserable while you're out in the wet.

    • ru_ri says:

      *pet-sitting sympathy fistbump*
      Hope you can stay reasonably warm and dry! I hate it when you make plans around the weather and the weather changes but the plans stay the same.

      If you made almond milk, then you could warm it up and put a little bit of honey and nutmeg in it, and drink it for staying-warm purposes, right?

      • CleverManka says:

        A bottle of almond milk, mixed with a can of coconut milk, warmed up with some honey and vanilla is delightful. Definitely adding nutmeg next time, thank you!

        • ru_ri says:

          Oooh! And I am adding coconut milk to mine. I've had half a can in the fridge ever since that squash soup and I've been wondering what to do with it. Brilliant!

          • CleverManka says:

            If you use coconut milk frequently, I highly recommend getting Aroy-D brand in little aseptic packaging. One of those cartons is just enough to enrichify a bottle of this bottle of almond milk. Just wait until warm weather to order because if coconut milk freezes, it never recovers. =(

          • CleverManka says:

            Of course, probably not everyone uses two or three cups of coconut milk a week like I do sometimes…

          • ru_ri says:

            I'm going to have to try that! All that's available in my local stores is Thai Kitchen in cans. And I didn't know that coconut milk doesn't freeze–good to know.

            I just use coconut milk occasionally right now, but I am finding that as I get older, my body is not as OK with animal milk as it used to be. Now I just drink milk in my tea and generally avoid dairy otherwise, but I foresee a day when I'm going to have to change my ways.

      • Heathered says:

        Oh man that sounds DELICIOUS! I made carob soy milk today for the first time, which I hope makes a decent mock hot cocoa. Counseling ended so early I came home to make coffee and enjoy the OT before trying to be a capable kitty-friend. Thank heavens for relatively small neighborhoods.

  7. vladazhael says:

    Leaving for Chicago tomorrow and was hoping to be a bit more chill emotionally at this time, but I guess the past week and a half has set off a new phase of my relationship ending/healing process in my head (I swear to all of you, I will someday be a person who can talk about something else!). Which is to be expected under the circumstances, and may in fact be healthy in terms of growth, and is a far cry from the initial full-on crisis – but is still a pain in the ass. Buuuuut I popped half a Xanax this morning to get and hopefully *keep* a better perspective (instead of the past couple days' nonsense of trying to shake off the early AM anxiety by myself and instead marinating in it all day and then going home and drugging myself anyway) – and so far, so good. I tend to resist chemical intervention because a) what I have now is not for maintenance, b) I want to demonstrate to my doctor that I *know* it's not for maintenance so she doesn't give me static about future supplies, and c) I want to be organically okay. But a) I'm not overusing it at all, b) worst case scenario is I have to (re)start maintenance stuff and/or involve my therapist as well, who is literally across the hall from my GP, and c) organic inner peace can't be rushed. So maybe I should, I don't know, stop being a neurotic mess about the meds that are there to help me be less of a neurotic mess. 😛

    That said, I realized just this week that it is legitimately sad to be spending what is probably going to be my last Xmas"with" the ex not actually with him. It's my own fault for basing my plans on the fact that I've never been big on Xmas anyway as an adult, and it's not like we ever built solid traditions around it anyway. In fact I spent a good chunk of last Xmas eve fiddling around under my car and wrangling a homesick existential crisis; it's bizarre to think that a year ago I was (at least in my own fantasies) much more ready to leave him and our life together behind, and now all I want is to not have to let go of all that. But nonetheless, I hope this trip will be a good, healing, fun thing that will help me move forward, and if not… well, see above about medication. 😉

    • CleverManka says:

      There's a reason I have the tag "emotional growth is the worst." It really, really is. And you are doing swell, bb. I'm glad you have the chemical assistance when you need it. Safe travels!

      • vladazhael says:

        Thank you. Especially for the "doing swell" part – it helps me fight against the internalized bullshit that tells me I'm failing myself and others by not experiencing a linear upward path of healing.

        • CleverManka says:

          If you were moving any faster down the path of healing, I'd be worried about denial issues. I am amazed at how well you are human-adulting. Seriously, you are an inspiration.

          • vladazhael says:

            *blush* Thanks. I AM worried about denial issues, but I think given how denial works, if I'm worried about it, it's probably not a thing?

          • pseudonymica says:

            I agree, you are an inspiration, vladazhael. And a holiday both with and without the ex is assuredly the time to celebrate XanaXmas.

          • vladazhael says:

            OMG BEST HOLIDAY NAME EVER. Immediately texted that to my mom.

    • pseudonymica says:

      Oh yeah, I just remembered why your med struggles felt familiar: I'm engaged in a similar relationship with ritalin. (I haven't taken any today, and that's why it took me a moment to figure the connection out). My doctor prescribed it because it's hard to get anything done with my post concussion syndrome. It's the lowest dose and it helps me approximate a normal day, but [see your points a),b), and c), above]. But I'm not overusing it and brain healing can't be rushed.

      So, in solidarity with our sisterhood, I'm going to take the full amount today, instead of my usual half, and the full amount when my nephew and niece are here.

      • vladazhael says:

        Right on! I think this time of year is probably a good time to not mess around with such things, as your naming above so nicely indicates. I have a note written on my hand to pick up my refill, too.

    • ru_ri says:

      Man, if you had come out of that past week *without* some kind of fallout I might be worried. You managed it brilliantly, but it really was pretty heavy shit IMO. So if you need a bit of a chemical assist to deal with it, let the drugs help!

      I hope you have a great time being free in Chicago–if you want some good Asian fusion food and you're in Logan Square head over to Yusho (just down the road from my friend's dojo) on Kedzie. The ramen is too heavy for me but the sesame chicken wings are worth a visit.

      • vladazhael says:

        Ooo, thank you! I just wrote that down on my packing/to-do list (a place of paramount importance). I think we'll be near enough to Logan Square for that to be an option.

        Yeah, definitely heavy shit – and oddly heavier once it was over than while it was happening. And it makes perfect sense to have to go through some more adapting because of it and re-stabilize with new info/developments – that was kind of the point of the exercise – but uuuuuuggghhh it's a draaaaaaaaag and why right nooooooow. I mean what kind of evolutionary cul-de-sac is anxiety, really? Who designed this shit? I need to write up a bug ticket and send it to the developers.

  8. Thujaplicata says:

    I'm at work still, but there are doughnuts and candy, so I'm managing. I'm going skiing tomorrow with Mr. Thuja and tonight we're going to a friends Christmas eve eve gathering. It should be lots of fun.

  9. LibLemon says:

    Heading to the in-laws' tomorrow to make the traditional Mexican Christmas tamales. I've been demoted from masa spreading, because that shit is hard and I am bad at it.

    • CleverManka says:

      I hope you have a great time, despite the demotion. I have a local friend who has tamale-making events and someday when I can eat like regular human being again, I'm going to ask to join. Group tasks that are a combination of fun/PITA/delicious are right up my alley.

      • LibLemon says:

        Thanks! I actually love tamale-making regardless – it's been a good way to bond with the mother-in-law since there's a task involved so silence isn't uncomfortable. It may actually be the only group activity I enjoy.

    • Lynn says:

      I want Christmas tamales! We have something we call Christmas fajitas but it's just a family joke – it's really those pinwheel things with cream cheese and salsa in a tortilla.

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      Oh, tamales. Yum!

    • pseudonymica says:

      Every year I "want" to make tamales with my dad, but we've only done it once because seriously, the entire process is hard. But the vegetarian tamales we made that year were sublime – even my relatives admitted their meatlessness wasn't an atrocity – so I still dream, without pushing too hard to make it a reality.

      • LibLemon says:

        Ooo what did you put in the vegetarian ones?

        Also, a friend sent me a gif of a woman spreading masa with a trowel, and I am >thisclose< to showing up at my MIL's house with one to try it out. Maybe that would make it easier? Agh.

        • pseudonymica says:

          Ha ha, you should take a trowel just to see the look of horror on your MIL's face.

          Squash, green chile, and corn are the staples for vegetarian ones where I'm from. That can be kind of dry, so we cooked the filling in a creamy cheese sauce, which is what made them over the top delicious.

  10. Lynn says:

    I'm in New Orleans with the boyfriend's family. We will have a somewhat chill Christmas since we had bought our tickets down before his brother remembered to tell us that they (the family with the kids young enough to get excited about Christmas) are leaving early Christmas morning to go skiing. So we have official family Christmas on the 24th,then we'll probably drop in at his sister's the 25th (probably not for long as that is the drama and Trump part of the family),and then chill out in an empty house. We had already decided to spend the last few days downtown at a hotel so it will turn into a real vacation (and we can drink in the Quarter). Not too shabby.

    Also it is in the 70s here. Not sunny, unfortunately, but I'll take what I can get.

  11. Kazoogrrl says:

    Tonight I'm making lemon bars for my mom, then prepping to make a Danish style Christmas Eve dinner because my commitment to my love of Mads Mikkelsen is that strong. But really, pork, and caramelized potatoes, and a whipped cream rice pudding dessert with cherry sauce? Yes please! Also, I'm going to make up a slow cooker pot of glog tomorrow afternoon and we'll see how far we make it through. Sadly, no singing and dancing around the Christmas tree, but we will have a fire and watch Rare Exports.

    Other than that I hope to take a long walk at some point, get in some knitting time, and watch some TV. Maybe I'll get back into Vikings (just at S2) because though I can't stand Ragnar I do want to see his relationship with Athalstan. For shipping reasons.

  12. ru_ri says:

    Warmest holiday wishes to all, O Mankanites! I hope the coming weekend brings everyone happiness and joy (or at least some extra-fine tipple).

    I have been absolutely slammed with work for the past week and a half and I also got a terrible cold so that was not a lot of fun. BUT I'm in San Diego on a cat/ house/dojo-sitting gig until after New Year's. It's nice to be in a warm place. And I have met a lovely gentleman who I've been lowkey hanging out with a few nights a week. And I get to do Aikido every day again which is a really good thing.

    I don't really celebrate Xmess so this weekend I'll just be hanging here with the ancient tiny orange cat I'm taking care of, maybe knitting something, filling the bird feeders, trying to figure out the stereo in this house, hopefully on Saturday going out to play pool and eat pho with Mr. X.


    • Kazoogrrl says:

      That sounds relaxing!

      • ru_ri says:

        Yes, I'm hoping so. As long as I stay away from the news, I think I can keep my blood pressure good and stable. And if that fails, there's always scotch…

    • CleverManka says:

      That sounds fucking perfect, wow.

      • ru_ri says:

        Yeah, I am not complaining! I feel very lucky considering how much emotional hardship I see others going through this time of year. (Not to mention freezing weather!)

    • Heathered says:

      OK, your sitting situation wins quite handily. Where can I find a lady to low key hang out with while I cat sit and don't do aikido? Don't forget to feed the dojo.

      • ru_ri says:

        Well the cat doesn't actually like me that much, but I am regarding that as a HER problem, not a ME problem. As long as she doesn't die on my watch, I'm all right with it.

        I have good luck with Tinder for the mens but my best lady companions have come from OK Cupid. Disclaimer: it varies so much with location! Small towns are hard. BUT I think I speak for all right-minded ladies when I say if you invited me over to hang out with someone else's cat for a few hours and drink warm almond-coconut milk with honey you would find me on the doorstep immediately!

        I would try to feed the dojo, but these crazy people keep trying to feed me! There are five tins of Xmess cookies on the table as I type, and they keep bringing more over. I'm about to hang a white flag on the porch, because I can't even eat the stuff. Whew.

        • Heathered says:

          That middle paragraph made me blush and hide my face, so I might be too immature for low-key hanging out while also being too old for it. One of the cats I'm sitting is a total love monster, but yesterday she was practically trying to climb in my mouth and today it was a very perfunctory, "Purr, purr. Is that how you like it? Good. Leave the kibble on the dresser on your way out." I confess I took it a little personally.

          • ru_ri says:

            Heh, I made ya blush! 😀 I do believe I am older than you are, though (born in '70)…perhaps you just need some time to get comfortable with the idea?

            I think your cat-sittee and my cat-sittee are in cahoots, as they appear to have similar strategies. I was hoping for a peaceful fur-ball who would sit quietly in my lap as I knitted. Instead I have a howling monster who turns her nose up at every flavor of Fancy Feast and walks on me in the most disruptive way possible (without ever lying down) while I am trying to sleep.

            Cats, man. What are they even.

          • Heathered says:

            Born in '69! Clearly those few months' difference are a super real and not at all invented impediment to my future romantic happiness. Also, you are really brave.

            Caaaaatttts. They did a runner yesterday and I had to go home and come back to secure them. Missed my own dinner as well as two to which I was invited and was really tempted to just eat the kitties instead. They were a little better today, and thank goodness tomorrow's the last of it.

  13. pseudonymica says:

    I'm at my parents' house, keeping it chill aside from last night when I decided to invent a new method for shoveling icy sidewalks. The front sidewalk was essentially a skating rink. I tried to break up the quarter inch sheets of ice with a hoe, which was satisfying and effective at first but some spots were more stubborn than others and eventually I realized the production would be more effective in daylight.

    I am always trying to find new ways to shovel snow because the research on gendered division of household labor clearly demonstrates that outside work traditionally carried out by men takes way less time than inside housework, yet is often perceived as equal. But I didn't grow up shoveling snow and I'm kind of a delicate flower – actually, I should own it: I am pretty feeble, physically. But I am smart and crafty.

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      That is a great trick! I use a flat bladed shovel, next time it might be a pick axe. I do most of the work, because I'm not domestically inclined and my SO cares nothing about the outside upkeep. That's when I pop up in his office with the "Now you're helping" face.

      Snow shoveling is a lot about being smart and not over extending yourself. I think you're doing fine!

    • CleverManka says:

      Go, you! Snow shoveling is, imo, incredibly cathartic. I hate hate hate snow, but wow it does feel good to get that shit off the sidewalk!

    • LaxMom says:

      Do they not sell ice scrapers there? It's like a garden shovel, but totally flat and a bit wider than a spade. They double in the summer as roofing-shingle removers.
      I only own one because they are also good at peeling up old linoleum, but hey, they are useful.
      I have just resigned myself to a driveway ice rink for the moment, it's right at the above freezing during the day, 20s at night stage, keeping it ice free will be hopeless with the amount of snow we have melting out.

  14. mellystu says:

    Today is the start of our spending the day lying about and only putting effort into food. I only brushed my hair and got dressed because I forgot to get wine for my xmas prime rib and sambuca for the egg nog. I'm even dumping a bunch of food in Cleo's bowl so he can have at it.

    Lagavulin 16 takes about 45 minutes to sip through, for certain.

  15. Kazoogrrl says:

    Oh, J, a friend, and I sat and watched that entire Yule Log video last year. I am weirdly attracted to Nick Offerman, weird because he reminds me of my dad. J was listening to his first book and said, "He mentioned cloves and Dead Can Dance and he sounds like someone you would have dated before you met me." Add in "good with his hands", and yep.

  16. LaxMom says:

    Teenboy and I kept it mellow today. He took his meds. We then spent a lot of the day looking for last minute shopping things, and got indian food for dinner.

    Ex is soooo disappointed that teenboy didn't want to go hang out with the rest of them. Duh, dude, you just kicked out your kid at christmas, AND blamed it on the other kid–not to mention the side-helping of "choosing my girlfriend's family over my son"–gee, you're sad he hung up on you??? too bad. The fact that he's not screaming and swearing at you shows remarkable restraint, IMHO.

  17. RoseCamelia says:

    Fellow Mankanites, please keep Carrie Fisher in your thoughts:

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