Friday Open Thread

Clever Manka, · Categories: Open Thread

This is the last day I’ve got the house to myself. I’ll be making the most of it with loud music and day drinking. Talk to me, beloveds!

207 Responses to “Friday Open Thread”

  1. CleverManka says:

    We've had two nights of thunderstorms in a row and I'm dragging today! Last night I was awake from 1:30 to a little after 5am. GOOD TIMES! Aaaaand I have to run an errand for the Burgomaster at some point so I'm a little grumpy that I have to leave the house today.

    I started watching GLOW because it I thought it would be mindless and delightfully trashy, but somewhere around episode 5-ish, it developed an enormous heart and I even love two of the men characters. They're not perfect–nobody on the show is except for maybe Carmen–but they aren't the despicable stereotypes we usually see as producers/directors. I don't care that it's escapist. It's funny and touching and so far there hasn't been even a mention of sexual assault as "character development" or, really, at all. We still don't have a lead of color, but the women of color who are in the cast are complex and smart and one of them has The Best Marriage. Also, the soundtrack is amazeballs.

    • Heather says:

      Is that a Netflix thing? I may have to hit up someone for a second screen reinstatement when my new gizmo comes on Monday.

      • CleverManka says:

        Yep, on Netflix, which I'm probably not going to keep forever, but sure is nice for now.

        • Doc_Paradise says:

          What counts as pretty fluff for you?

          • CleverManka says:

            Miss Fisher's fit the pretty fluff bill nicely. I expected GLOW to be pretty fluff, but it isn't at all.

            My main requirement is I can't stick with something that doesn't have good writing/believable characters. I noped-out of Lost Girl because I couldn't stand the whole "you have much to learn but we're not going to teach you even though it would be to our advantage" trope. I loved the general idea/world, but everybody on the show except for blue-eyed-girl acted like an immature and clueless child (which was extra annoying considering blue-eyed-girl's character actually was an immature and clueless child).

            The first two seasons of BBC Sherlock were excellent pretty fluff until it went to hell.

    • Xolandra says:

      O wow, one of my friends recently posted that she was watching GLOW on Netflix and I was like "why are they rebroadcasting old wrestling?" It… makes much more sense that it is a tv drama, hahaha

    • RoseCamelia says:

      So many thunderstorms here, and so very often! LittleGirlDog took them in stride when she was young, but now she trembles in fear. But only for lightening and only at night. I figure it's because of the cataracts that came with old age. There's no sleep for me if she and I are in the same room. Mr Rose can hold her and sleep at the same time. I cannot. I comfort her for a time, but when her fearful clawing hurts me, I hand her to Mr Rose and go sleep on the sofa.

      So I feel you, Manka. Thunderstorms overnight create drag-ass days. I hope Kansas has fewer nights like that than we have in southern Texas.

      • Xolandra says:

        There's been a lot of thunderstorms here, too, and Berlin is flooding. Weather is not being normal, that is for sure.

      • CleverManka says:

        It's sad because I love them when they don't happen in the wee hours. Seems to be mostly what we get nowadays, though. I haven't seen a good afternoon/early evening thunderstorm in months. Climate change for the lose.

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      I had no desire to watch this but between the, er, glowing reviews (sorry) and the fact I just finished S3 of Kimmy Schmidt (better than S2), I'm intrigued.

      • CleverManka says:

        I hope you enjoy it! The first episode is (as almost always) the worst. Ignore the bizarre gratuitous nudity. It hasn't returned.

        • Kazoogrrl says:

          A friend of mine is a burlesque performer/costumer married to a professional wrestler, and she's been talking this up a lot. Thanks for the recommendation!

        • Kazoogrrl says:

          So I watched it all within a 48 hour period, and it was really good! I think Carmen and Sam are my favorite characters, though I like them all in different ways.

          And Carmen's family! Her brothers are the best.

          • CleverManka says:

            Carmen is so perfect. I love her. But yeah, I love liking all these characters even though some of them can be really horrible–they're so (pardon me) real. Not caricatures.

    • Doc_Paradise says:

      I like thunderstorms, but not so much when they wake me up. Sympathy there.

      It's 150 Canada Day weekend here. The city is a frantic anthill. Crowds everywhere. I have no intention of going downtown until Monday when I have to.

      Sounds like a cool show.

      • CleverManka says:

        I am 100% supportive of barricading oneself in the safety of home when Crowd Shenanigans are inevitable. Good call.

        • Doc_Paradise says:

          Yeah. I'm not keen on crowds and it is supposed to rain all weekend. MMMmm no. So far I haven't seen anything on the agenda that would be worth that. La Machine is coming at the end of July… THAT I want to see.

    • MissBadcrumble says:

      Oh, I will definitely check out GLOW now! I had no intention whatsoever of doing that at first.
      Also waiting for Stranger things, but I have no idea when it premieres.

  2. Heather says:

    I am still floating with no identity, but swear I will rectify this next week. Made the mistake of using straight red henna last week and murder clowning my hair. Tried to fix it last night and the brown didn't really take–all the gray is still bonkers looking, but not in a nice Run Lola Run way. Coming soon to terrify a children's party near you.

    • CleverManka says:

      Ooof, yeah, I'm familiar with that murder-clown orange of henna. What are you using to try to brown it down?

    • RoseCamelia says:

      Yeah, straight henna is good for me, being a natural brunette. Only my grays get bright red, which look fantastic among my newly shiny brown hairs. What's your natural color? I had assigned you to the natural brunette category in my mind's eye, but I guess I'm wrong.

      • Heather says:

        Dark brown on top, black from the eyebrows down! So I have these weird salt and pepper sideburns that wouldn't stay in the shower cap, then a cuckoo red layer, then nicely auburn on the very top. I'm SUPER tempted to buy a trimmer, but not at all confident in my ability to shave it. much less fade the sides. Blurg.

        • RoseCamelia says:

          I'm sorry you did not get the result you wanted.

          I have soooo much gray in my sideburns that they are a priority for covering with henna paste. After donning the shower cap, I put plastic wrap around my head. That's what keeps the sideburns covered in green goo. Also, it's the only way my very low hairline keeps henna on the back of my neck.

          Maybe you'd be happier with a lower lawsone content in your henna. Mehandi.com has selections on a continuum from lowest to highest lawsone (the reddening stuff). You can mix with cassia to dilute the red.

          Mehandi lets you buy samples. Then you can collect hair from your brush to experiment with, find your preferred mixture before putting it all over your head.

          Meanwhile, your current color will fade. Just wash it twice each time you shampoo, to hurry the fading.

    • meat_lord says:

      Oof, sorry about your hair mishap! I hope you get it sorted soon.

      ….You know, the number of "murder clown" characters that I can list offhand is a little unsettling. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY OF THEM.

      • jenavira says:

        John Wayne Gacy, who is "from" every state I've ever lived in. He was in prison before I was born and dead before I was in high school, and I still feel like I should apologize.

        (Interesting trivia; although he is probably to blame for about 75% of the Creepy Clown Shit, with Stephen King accounting for another 20%, Chicago had a history of Creepy Clown Shit before then, dating back to the Hammond Circus Train Wreck of 1918. Most of those killed were burned beyond recognition and buried in a mass grave called Showman's Rest, which is of course haunted, and ever since Chicago has been ground zero for creepy clowns.)

        • meat_lord says:

          Well, that makes a huge amount of sense.

          Sufjan Stevens wrote a song about him, and I love the Suf. So here ya go. ETA: Not that anyone necessarily wants a song about a horrific murder clown…

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      I once gave myself neon orange hair, so I feel you. Good luck correcting it!

    • Räven says:

      Twice this spring I have been approached by those young fundraisers in pinnies who accost you on the sidewalk, and in their safety-orange aspca vests they've boldly said "with your hair, this is a perfect match!" My hair isn't actually that color but whether it is or no, they seem to have no idea that this comparison will not open my wallet to them. Goddam little punks.

  3. Xolandra says:

    O HAI FRIENDS. I am now working every ~other~ Friday, which means I am At My Desk. Filing. Electronic files. To an electronic, cloud-based storage system. Which means that i have to wait for the time it takes for me to blink in between the system's pop-up and my ok. And if I don't, I have to click another pop-up telling me to be patient and then hit ok again. And I feel like this is the greatest hardship for no reason at all.

    In resistance news, I visited the people attempting to erect a teepee on Parliament Hill last night, and may just have made my way onto a CSIS watchlist. My pics: https://www.instagram.com/p/BV8UJubFsyA/?taken-by… and https://www.instagram.com/p/BV8T-gXlhVx/?taken-by…. Better pics exist tho! And i should really fix the hashtags. Check #Resist150 #unsettle150 #reoccupation for more ♥

    • CleverManka says:

      Oh my god, tedious tech shit is the woooooooorst. Congratulations on making the watchlist!
      <img src="http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/clevermanka/1047329/374638/374638_900.gif"&gt;

    • RoseCamelia says:

      Really, that's annoying. We're well past the days of dial-up. We are accustomed to nearly instant electronic responses. Any tech that can't keep up should be ashamed of itself. I'd feel it a hardship too.

      But now I remember the bad old days when I had a stack of (actual, made of paper, physical) trade magazines for reading while waiting for dial-up pages to load. When I'd strategize the most efficient click sequences to minimize wait times.

      • Xolandra says:

        RIGHT? Last year I literally filed paper and it was faster than this.

        I just printed off a 230 page report because HELLS TO THE NO I am not reading that on my computer screen!

        #imanold #wheresmycane?

      • Kazoogrrl says:

        At one crap job I would read a magazine while doing endless copies. Which I found out later my boss HATED but that passive aggressive fucker wouldn't bother to tell me, it would just come up at my yearly review, given by the office manager. He also hated that I'd read while on a smoke break. POS.

        • Xolandra says:

          I have never ever worked out why employers hate it when employees read to pass the time. Like, it looks way better than standing there with a vacant look in one's eyes, imo.

          But some people just hate reading. As GentlemanX's grandmother once pointed out, what are you going to do with all of that knowledge?

          • Lee Thomson says:

            not stab people from boredom or frustration?? I mean – that's why I knit, that's why I read, that's why and how I don't engage with stupid people, or mean people

          • Kazoogrrl says:

            He felt like he owned us for the 8 hours we were there. The. Worst.

      • Flitworth says:

        When our emergency placement was with us, she was frustrated we wouldn't let her put her tablet on the network (this was out of our hands, v. long story). I explained to her that she could still use our tablet and to be thankful because when I was a kid and went to look at a webpage, I opened the link and it was loaded by the time I graduated high school.

        • Xolandra says:

          Did you also walk uphill both ways to school through 40 foot drifts of snow?

          I love the "being able to Google lyrics thing". Like, never ever again will anyone ever think that the song is Baking Carrot Biscuits, by BTO (and it occurs to me as I type this that y'all may not know BTO. If you do not, please do not google, i do not want that on my hands).

        • Kazoogrrl says:

          I was taking a drink of iced tea when I read this and just managed to not spit it on my monitor. I did dribble some on my desk, though.

    • Xolandra says:

      More resistance news: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-visits-re

      He visited. He made no promises. All is as it always has been.

        • Xolandra says:

          And I just checked the Facebook event, and it turns out that JT and his wife just… showed up. Without talking to the organizers or the Elders. There is no fire lit (the intention since the outset has been to light a sacred fire and practice traditional ceremonies on what is some pretty sacred unceded ground), and the people who are trying to smudge have been told that they cannot even light a fire to accomplish that.

          That's quiiiiiiiiiite the dialogue you're setting up there, Mr. The Right Honourable Trudeau.

          As one of the organizers pointed out, 48 hours ago 10 organizers were arrested and banned from The Hill. They are still banned.

          I was just on The Hill, and there is some seriously intense security. Usually you can just rock up with a mickey, but this year there are cops in flackjackets ~everywhere~. Laughing and joking about how they really hope that they don't have to use their prominently displayed guns. I _hate_ Canada Day. Good thing my favourite local bar is far from the Hill and also is having a Skananda party that they deliberately are setting up as an anti-Canada-Day party.

          Poll: the band I am going to see on Canada Day sold me a red shirt. Normally, humans wear red and white on Canada Day, and I scowl because my favourite colour has been co-opted for Patriotism. Do I wear the shirt anyway (nerd alert: wearing the band's shirt TO SEE THE BAND) OR do I wear Another Shirt that is Not Red?

          • CleverManka says:

            JT and his wife just… showed up. Without talking to the organizers or the Elders.
            CLASSY!

            For the shirt–if you don't mind cutting it up (and you have time to do so), maybe remove the insignia portion and applique it to a different colored shirt?

          • Xolandra says:

            Everything he does is classy. He oozes class. This is why the legalization of pot is going through; if JT does it, it can't be THAT bad, right?

            O, funnily enough, I have just started my foray into making boxy band t-shirts into not super boxy t-shirts. But Danny Rebel made "girl" tees, so this one fits super well and I am not yet willing to cut it up. I did cut up some other ones tho! Including my Peaches shirt, which I don't yet have a pic of what I did to it but I think Peaches would be pleased ^_^

      • Xolandra says:

        Also in the news: https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/06/counter-prot

        I do not know how The Beaverton manages to be so on point and so on top of these things, but wowzers. Too soon, Beaverton, Too Soon.

    • Lee Thomson says:

      really! Congrats on achieving a watch list – that is one I haven't done yet

  4. meat_lord says:

    Adulting news: I bought a small countertop dishwasher! 😀 Unfortunately, the faucet adapter that it came with does not like my faucet. I'll have to team up with the datefriend, who is quite the handyperson, to find and purchase one that will fit.

    This weekend looks to be full of socializing. I've got a birthday party on Saturday and some kind of event at a trendy downtown bar on Sunday. I'm looking forward to the fun, but also I have got to carve out some time for myself or I will gnaw off my own legs.

    In other other news, it has been about a year since I moved out of a bad living situation and delivered the African Violet of Broken Friendship to my ex-roommate/ex-BFF. That friendship and its continuing repercussions have been on my mind a lot lately. Maybe I'll talk about that more in a sub-comment?

    • Xolandra says:

      small countertop dishwasher??? *googles furiously*

    • CleverManka says:

      I'm not a regular reader of Captain Awkward so had to google the African Violet thing. I love it.

    • meat_lord says:

      Gotta get some of these ex-friend feelings off my chest. I've mentioned this person on here before, as some of you may recall.

      The thing that I'm stuck on is that my ex-friend crossed the line from garden-variety jerkitude into manipulative and controlling behavior. I don't know if they realized what they were doing. I'm 99% sure they would have doubled down if I had tried to call them out on it.

      (The "If you don't do exactly what I want, you are a Bad Friend and Bad Person who is Making My Depression Worse" conditioning was so strong that I still feel like I was somehow the manipulative & controlling one. Which is a deeply, deeply frightening thought. I don't want to have been to them what they were to me, you feel?)

      • Doc_Paradise says:

        Oh fuck yes, I feel.

        I took a break from making friends for a while to sort out WTF was going on with me and friends. Also, I was way too sick to spend the stupidly large amounts of emotional labour I was used to spending on friendship upkeep. In the process, my friend circle got stripped. It was painful. I did a lot of questioning. They don't have to be bad people for you to let them go and you aren't a bad person for letting them go.

        Things are working out better now for me. The friends that were there for me are all TOTALLY WORTH all the energies and are happy to reciprocate. I'm more mindful of what I'm bringing to the table and what others are *actually* brining to the table. I hope you can get to a better place too.

        • meat_lord says:

          Oh, man, "stupidly large amounts of emotional labour" spent on friendship upkeep is way too familiar. Yes. And thank you for the reminder that neither of us have to be bad people for me to have expelled ex-friend from my life.

          I'm happy to hear that things are working out better for you :3 Things have already improved for me a lot; I'm just reflecting on how they got to be so jacked up in the first place.

      • Lee Thomson says:

        …yes? I totally understand not wanting to be the way they described you, and I have seen and experienced ex-friends making you feel like you are doing to them all the things they are actually doing to you. Part of that, I think, is that they know what they are doing, and assume you are doing it too, only less successfully. Which makes it weird when different people accuse you of conflicting varieties of bad behavior, because they are manipulating you in different, conflicting ways.

        The best antidote I've found is to check in with people you love and trust, and be as truthful as possible. At least, the being truthful part is vital for me. The people I love help me monitor my own behavior and keep it within bounds.

        • meat_lord says:

          Part of that, I think, is that they know what they are doing, and assume you are doing it too, only less successfully.

          …Wow, that's really illuminating.

          Yes, truth is necessary. And trust. Both are hard for me. I've been working on trusting my loved ones to be gentle with me when I'm vulnerable and honest.

  5. vladazhael says:

    Leaving for NYC on Sunday for the #YayHamlet trip, during which I and my partner-in-nerdity will be seeing both Hamilton and Hamlet (with Oscar Isaac) and hanging out with a couple other friends and doing silly tourist things. I am both totally ready and totally not, and currently making up for the latter by goofing off at work and finding all the bars and such we can walk to from our hotel.
    Oh, and also before that I have to catch up on ALL THE THINGS at work, band practice tonight, recycling chores in the morning, band recording starting at 11, need to meet up with catsitter to exchange keys at some point, then when I get back there's all the catching up at work and then another band practice and then a festival show and NO I'M NOT OVERDOING IT WHY WOULD YOU ASK.

  6. Kazoogrrl says:

    Things are starting to get done! The donation paperwork for my old car is in and it's being towed Monday. I'll be glad to not be paying insurance on that anymore, though I'm going to miss the Wee Honda. Cats got their shots at the vet yesterday, it went well even though Momcat screamed bloody murder for her shots. Next thing is getting my passport paperwork in, for some reason I have a hard time doing things like that, but I can do it at the library so I need to Get On It. Plans are in place for the weekend, my boss decided to close the office Monday so I'm off FOUR WHOLE DAYS, and the best? Potential dog is coming to stay Sunday for his 2 week try-out, so there will be pics!

    I did my indigo dying last weekend, it was messy and a little stinky and very satisfying. I had a hard time photographing anything because of my crappy phone, but here is one. On the left is a solid dyed linen/rayon mix, which I cut in half vertically to sew the two ends together to make a circular scarf. For that I'm deliberately fraying the edges. On the right is a very large flour sack towel, that I tied with blocks and rubber bands. It'll be cut in quarters to make napkins. The napkin is from a pack I bought to make white cotton waist aprons for our Hannibal Small Foods set up, I *tried* to just buy them but they are either super pricey or made of polyester, so I had to do it myself.

    <img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4020/34790470824_6f6761b58e.jpg"&gt;

    • CleverManka says:

      That is a gorgeous dye on the left, there. Beautiful! How much will rinse out?

      • Kazoogrrl says:

        Hopefully none! I washed them after dying to get any built up dye out, and then let them air dry. We'll see how they hold up! I also did a top, and I really like it though blue clothing is actually not my favorite (unless it's a peacock/teal blue).

        • CleverManka says:

          Oh, wow, that's already washed and rinsed? GREAT JOB! The coverage is so complete!

          • Kazoogrrl says:

            Thanks! It's a little tedious as you can't drop it in the due tub because it could pick up spots, but you only dunk it for 3 minutes or so. I used the Dharma kit, which was $9 and provides a ton of dye. If I want to do larger batches I might rig up something to suspend the fabric in the dye bath for faster turn around.

    • Doc_Paradise says:

      That's a wonderful blue.

    • Absotively says:

      Congratulations on the doing stuff!

      Also, your scarf & napkins are very pretty.

      I Do Not Understand polyester napkins. What is even the point of a non-absorbent napkin? Why are these a thing? On the plus side, dyeing the napkins before you cut them might help them look similar.

      • Kazoogrrl says:

        It was actually poly aprons I found, which I understand more but they feel gross, so I got the flour sack towels and repurposed them into aprons, and now dyed napkins. I realized my description above was convoluted.

        Poly napkins serve no purpose and should be staped into garments of shame for whomever came up with the idea.

        • Absotively says:

          Oh, yes, polyester aprons do make more sense.

          I once saw a package of polyester napkins that advertised that spills would bead up and run off them. It baffles me that a napkin manufacturer can have that little understanding of what a napkin is.

    • jenavira says:

      Oh that is a stunning blue. (A moment of silence for the 10 yards of linen I had in that color, stolen out of the laundry room at college before I could make a dress out of it. You know, there's no reason I couldn't get some more linen and try it again…)

    • Lee Thomson says:

      nice work! I like the scrunched and tied piece a lot, and the solid blue is a VERY good blue (speaking as a blue connoisseur).

  7. LaxMom says:

    hings are weird here. I still need Teenboy to get a job, already, I may actually drive him to the drive in and force him to talk to somebody. We are also having many storms.

    Talked to lawyer, things are proceeding. Moving to make upcoming trial into a pretrial.

    Teengirl isn't drinking enough and first day of band camp did her in. Of course big brother then called her stupid for sleeping instead of drinking when she got home. Lovingly, of course. /s

    Netflix is the best thing to happen to our house. Teenboy turned on a weird indian robot scifi blockbuster last night and we laughed through the thunderstorms. Three of us. In one room. I'm still in shock.

    Have lost all of Teenboy's shorts.

    I somehow was under the impression that my classes started July 10th. Nope, start monday. Here's hoping I'm an ok online teacher.

  8. Doc_Paradise says:

    Hey. Is anybody on Dreamwidth? I'm becoming more active there (doc-paradise) and I'm looking for friends.

    I've decided that the way to get more veggies in my diet is to have a veggie heavy lunch. So I've been making veggie stir-fry. It seems to be working. Partners are pro-eating-veggies-in-theory but in practice tend to gravitate towards meat.

    I've gotten myself involved in an LBTQ2+ initiative at work. I have mixed feelings. I'm glad that something is being done. I'm not exactly sure that the program was well thought through.

    • Xolandra says:

      O my pizza, I promised you an asparagus pesto lasagna recipe an age ago and totally forgot: https://www.vegetariantimes.com/recipes/asparagus

      NB: add way more pesto. That is a dumb amount of pesto.
      Add more asparagus. That's what this dish is about, after all!
      I use whole milk because I think skim milk is weird. If you follow suit, you can cut the amount of flour required back.
      You can also replace nocook noodles with fresh pasta, but you want to cut back the amount of liquid (just a little bit) if you do that.

      • Doc_Paradise says:

        Thanks! The CSA that I get has had A LOT of asparagus this year. I swear that this rain and cold has been really rough on veggie growing. My tomato plants are big and leafy… and almost no tomatoes yet and the ones that are there are tiny.

        • Xolandra says:

          Yeah, ours are doing the selfsame thing 🙁 Our pepper plants have barely grown at all. The beans alone are unaffected.

          Hey, did I mention that I'm veg? If you ever have "wtf do I do with this vegetable" moments that Google cannot answer for you, I am also a decent cook, feel free to be in touch!

          • Doc_Paradise says:

            Okay… I'll take you up on that right now.

            There is something in the grocery store that looks like a bubbly diseased zuchinni… what is it? How is it eaten?

          • Xolandra says:

            O, okra! Hilariously, Manka and I were just talking okra, and we totally agree that the only way to eat okra is to curry it.

            Beyond that, I have no advice. I have never cooked iwth okra, I understand it is a challenging, slimy mess. I have, however, been looking for an excuse to chat up the buddhists that live across the street from me and i happen to know that they grow okra, so I will see if I can learn any secrets ^_^

          • Doc_Paradise says:

            Found it … not okra… Momordica charantia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momordica_charantia

            Okra is awesome. I'm growing it in my garden. I understand that it can be deep fried but I mostly use it in tomato based saucy foods where it acts both like a green bean and a thickener.

          • Xolandra says:

            Oooooooooooo, yes, bitter gourd.

            No, that vegetable is a mystery to me (and probably always will be because bitter is not a flavour i choose to cultivate in my cuisine). Which is a damn shame, because I live in Chinatown and should probably know what to do with it. Other foodies here maybe?

          • Doc_Paradise says:

            Bitter isn't my friend either. Gin and Tonic makes my face try to crawl out of the back of my skull. I didn't realize until just now that it was bitter. Better that I know.

          • Xolandra says:

            I actively cultivated a taste for G nT as a young Drinker because, at the time, ppl would be incredulous – like a GIRL. LIKES GIN AND TONIC?!?!

            These days I mostly eschew the tonic and replace with rocks 😉

          • Doc_Paradise says:

            I was curious so my BFF gave me one… they thought the result was HILARIOUS.

          • Räven says:

            In Chinatown I've had great dishes with it, and I occasionally bring one home and am frustrated by how specific it is. I think this is a reasonable discussion and I've done something like this stir fry although I do not eat meat personally. http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/07/seriou

          • Räven says:

            I love okra! You know what is the actual best is grill it on skewers. (Oil, salt, a little spice if you have something you like.) Nothing could be more delicious. Though curry is good too. But grill it! You and Manka both!

          • Kazoogrrl says:

            Okra? Pickle it, so good!

          • RoseCamelia says:

            1/4 of my ancestors are Cajuns. They add thick chunks of okra to everything that cooks in liquid. If you cook it long enough, the slime incorporates itself into the gumbo or whathaveyou.

            It's poor people's food. Because it grows wild (in USian Cajun country) and is therefore free. And because it stretches your pot of food, creates more volume. Used this way, okra doesn't really have flavor or notable presence.

            However, fried okra is a delight. Eat it like popcorn. Fry it like any fish or vegetable, in inch-sized chunks. The result is crunchy outside, tender inside, not slimy at all.

            Slime is a certainty if you cook it at less than very high heat (frying) or less than 90 minutes in liquid (gumbo).

          • Xolandra says:

            I JUST LEARNED SO MUCH. Thank you!!!

          • Doc_Paradise says:

            Yum. I didn't realize it was so common there. I'm trying to coax it to grow here.

          • CleverManka says:

            I feel like that 90-minute in liquid rule is going to come in very handy. Thank you!

          • RoseCamelia says:

            That's a guesstimate. Grandma always started her gumbo pot in the morning. It cooked all day before being served for supper. Longer is better.

          • CleverManka says:

            Hmmm I am suddenly aware of the fact that I skipped lunch…

          • CheddarBiscuit says:

            Fried okra is indeed delicious.

    • CleverManka says:

      You know I'm there under clevermanka, but if anyone else is interested, feel free to add me. I'm not terribly active right now but I might become more so once I'm trapped at a desk for eight hours a day again.

      Yay veg-heavy meals! Summer is always a good time to work on adding vegs. What are your faves? Any new discoveries? A local store carried Romanesco/brocoflower for a while last year and I'm so sad it hasn't made a reappearance.

    • jenavira says:

      Veggie stir-fry is the best. I've been using this recipe with virtually anything I have in the house and it's a good way to use up farmer's market impulse buys (which I am astoundingly bad for).

      • Doc_Paradise says:

        That looks delicious.*takes notes*

        I've been mostly doing "what is in the fridge" stir fry with a light sauce of some sort. We've discovered that putting a splash of white wine vinegar or apple cider vinegar (splash on, cook until dry) onto frying onions, mushrooms, or drier veggies creates a nice tang (just don't stand over it while it is cooking).

        Today I had asparagus, kale, green onion, ginger, apple, garlic scape, with a bit of leftover chicken with a splash of apple cider vinegar, white wine, tamari, and maple syrup. It was yummy.

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      I saw you friended me! I need to make the transition, I let LJ slide last fall and haven't picked blog style writing up again.

  9. jenavira says:

    I'm still exhausted, and still depressed, but I'm also bored silly by it so I'll say no more about that.

    I am at bitch-eating-crackers level of annoyance with one of my neighbors, who apparently spends all day, every day, sitting on the bench just outside the entrance to the building. I mean, yes, she has every right to do this, but I feel like all my movements are being monitored. (It doesn't help that my apartment is right next to the door, too.) Last night I climbed through the lawn in the rain to the side door to avoid her (at 9:30 at night!). I know this is irrational but it's driving me bonkers.

    I'm staring down a giant pile of library books, all due after the long weekend, and I have no idea which one to read first. The murder mystery inside a murder mystery? The postcolonial portal fantasy? The magic-using space opera? The nonfiction about how octopuses are too intelligent for me to eat calimari ever again?

    • Xolandra says:

      Octopuses! Octopuses and the poco one!

      • jenavira says:

        I will be honest, I've been looking forward to the portal fantasy because I've been rereading an 80s portal fantasy from my childhood and it is…not good.

        • meat_lord says:

          What is this portal fantasy? :3

          • jenavira says:

            The childhood one is Ru Emerson's Night-Threads series, which still has one of the most interesting magic systems I've ever come across but which also has terrible worldbuilding. (They're in alternate-universe southern California and there are no brown people! There are no American Indians! They get cotton from the east but there's no slavery! I am side-eyeing all of it so hard.)

            The new one is Foz Meadows's An Accident of Stars, which I really need to read now that it has a sequel. There's no way I'll finish it over the weekend, but I'd like to get it started at least…

          • meat_lord says:

            I thought the new one might be An Accident of Stars! I'll be interested to hear what you think of it. It's too bad the other one doesn't hold up now… oof.

          • jenavira says:

            If there are other postcolonial portal fantasies out there I would love to read them, but I think it's a kinda niche genre. 🙂 I will report back, for sure.

          • Lee Thomson says:

            Try Martha Wells' Wizard Hunters – the first in the Fall of Ile Rein – it has portals but none of them start here, and the different worlds are AMAZING and scary and wonderful and I love her.

          • jenavira says:

            Ooh, Martha Wells has been on my to-read list for a long time now.

        • Xolandra says:

          O dear. I hate it when childhood favs turn out to be… not good. *coughmercedeslackeycough*

          ETA: I am sorry to hear about bored and depressed and neighbour. It STINKS to feel like you are being constantly watched. I saw a shrink about it I hated it so much.

          • jenavira says:

            Oooh, I am so glad I never got into Mercedes Lackey. There are quite a few series I think I'm just never going to go back to; I don't want to know if they've been visited by the Suck Fairy.

            It's an interesting data point, at least, reminding me of why I don't have a roommate any more: when I get depressed, having another person around regularly makes me feel like I'm being scrutinized, and it's intolerable. (Neighbor has been doing this for a while, but it's only in the past couple of weeks it's been bothering me a lot.)

          • Xolandra says:

            I will stand by the Magic's promise/price/…somthing else trilogy. She got worse with time.

            That is an _interesting_ point. The scrutiny got to be too much when I was really not doing well, emotionally, and nothing has changed in between now and then other than my mood. Ima keep an eye on that from now on, thank you!

          • Doc_Paradise says:

            I like some of her more recent fairy tale retellings.

          • Xolandra says:

            Ooooooooooo, interesting! I kinda gave up in the mid 90s, haha, maybe I should revisit the things not co-authored with her husband.

          • Doc_Paradise says:

            Some of the Elemental Masters and 500 Kingdoms series are interesting. I read some of the earlier ones a few years back then drifted away. They scratched an itch then.

          • Lee Thomson says:

            The Suck Fairy is a thing that happens to beloved books, and it makes me really really sad.

            Also I sympathize about neighbors watching you – there are moments I feel I am sneaking out of my own house working hard not to look towards them so they won't speak to me.

    • CleverManka says:

      The neighbor thing is not irrational, that is just weird and creepy and I would climb in a window to avoid her.

      • jenavira says:

        Thank you for the validation. At least there is the side door? It's not ideal when it's raining, as the lawn gets soggy, and it's the opposite side of the building from the street so it doesn't work when I go out for walks, but it's better than nothing.

      • Flitworth says:

        Seconded.

        Speaking of the need to avoid people : Very British Problems.

    • Doc_Paradise says:

      I'd climb out a window to avoid a neighbour that I didn't want to deal with. It doesn't seem irrational to me.

      Ha… yeah, eventually I'm going to have to modify my octopi eating habits because … yeah… I think Tanya Huff may have been thinking about that when she made the Krai.

      What is the portal fantasy?

      • jenavira says:

        Weirdly I think it was the story about the octopus who climbed out of its tank to throw a bad shrimp at its caretaker, in his office down the hall, then went and got back in its tank and finished lunch. That's such a petty, person thing to do… I wish I'd figured this out before I found out that octopus was delicious. But then, I've always been the person with a morbid curiosity about long pig, so.

        An Accident of Stars by Foz Meadows, which I've been itching to read since it came out, and now there's a sequel, I am so behind on everything.

        • Doc_Paradise says:

          It was the story of the octopus who kept shooting out the overhead lamp because it was bugging him that got me thinking about it. They are smart (and delicious).

          *reads the blurb* Wow… that's a lot of female characters mentioned right out of the gate, and a matriarchy.

  10. Flitworth says:

    I picked 4lbs of unripe gooseberries last night. There are so many they're causing the branches to rest on the ground. Last year we didn't get to enjoy any of our berry crops (we have 6 pathetic blueberry bushes, strawberries, gooseberries and blackberries, all eaten by small animals or destroyed by drought) so I decided I'd rather have unripe gooseberry jam than let the chipmunks win. I am also not convinced that there is such a thing as a ripe gooseberry.

    Tiny human and I are taking a roadtrip to see family in upstate NY for long weekend. Husband is staying home to deal with the animals then the week after he is taking TH to Maine for a few days (hopefully) to see his family and it will be my turn to recharge w/o significant responsibilities. We are still waiting to hear whether more people are going to suddenly decide they need to see TH & us in our home and whether all parties can show up to a meeting scheduled as a warm-up to the trial in August.

    I am reading shrill by Lindy West as well as Mary Beard's book on laughter according to the Romans. Recommend both even though I've just gotten started.

  11. Onymous says:

    In Catch 22 (the book's theme not the colloquial paradox) news:

    Target has the whole order online pick up in store thing (we call it an SPU, store pick up), when some orders something it pops up in our PDAs and we go pick it off the floor or back-room. Sometimes we have to cancel it because the inventory is wrong or some one buys it before we can get to it. When we cancel it the PDA gives us a screen that says "have you checked every where and notified the LoD" (leader on duty, Target has leaders not managers or supervisors). This has been the case since 2013 when they launched the whole thing.

    yesterday I walk in to find my team leader had posted a bunch of fliers saying "before canceling an SPU you must notify the LoD. This is a new company directive and must be followed"

    1) absolutely, completely not a new company directive.

    2) the whole reason no one bothers telling the LoD is because there is literally nothing they can do about it.

    3) no in fact we don't have to follow it.

    god damned conspiracies of bullshit.

    • Onymous says:

      I think this is a June thing because last June was when I ended up facing down a supervisor, two managers and the head of HR over a "new dress code" that only Store Team Lead (top of the pyramid) of the store had been "notified" of.

      which the particularly steel trap minded may remember being the impetus of a break down and seeking professional help.

      This particular conspiracy of bullshit is not going to end up there but for fucks sake would it kill Corporate to just be like "hey too many cancellations have been happening so follow existing procedure" and/or would it kill the Store to not propagate the bullshit?

    • CleverManka says:

      Ugh. Condolences. That sounds like a very frustrating nightmare.

  12. Onymous says:

    on an unrelated note:

    I've been watching Riverdale the "grim and gritty" Archie soap opera.

    It's constantly toeing the line of being overwrought (CW prime time soap opera and all) but if you have netflix it's not a bad time if you're into that sort of thing.

    • CleverManka says:

      the "grim and gritty" Archie soap opera
      The idea of it is hilarious! I wish I liked that type of show more…

      • Onymous says:

        Seriously every commercial break may as well begin and end with a dun dun duuuuuuun

        Although the whole Archie thing is barely even "in name only" I think they just had the rights lying around and they thought that it might give it some initial audience buy in. Some costume design and names are the only thing the show shares with the comic. So if any one reading is hoping for Archie meets the Punisher with blood and guts you'll be disappointed.

  13. littleinfinity says:

    Doing my self-evaluation for yearly reviews, send help and/or large amounts of vodka pls. Nothing worse than reflecting on one's own performance :/

  14. LaxMom says:

    Found out on Facebook that College-not-collegeBoy has rented his first apartment (his gf posted). I am happy that he is finally getting out of his dad's basement and unhappy that that means he's probably not taking advantage of out-of-state in-his-wheelhouse well-paid career internships, and he will have to stay in his job working night shift now. I can say that here because irl I will be positive and encouraging and yes, this is important and will probably teach him quickly that he wants to go back to school, so I can just be happy he's showing forward movement. But thanks for being here to let me express my "I just wish my kids didn't do things the hard way" feelings, and a little bit my "I had to learn on FACEBOOK?" feelings.

  15. Lee Thomson says:

    I dunno what to say – I'm still having fun but grossly over-committed in the theater thing.

    I'm waiting for the boat to finish curing, and not going to snip the wires out until I have time to drool more thickened epoxy into the seams. My next actual day with zero commitments is the 4th, and I'm feeling a little pressed, but still amused.

    Tomorrow I am driving to Mystic CT to the wooden boat show, because there are not enough boats in my life yet. But I am NOT buying another kit, I promise.

    • CleverManka says:

      Have fun at the boat show! BOAT BOAT BOAT CURING!

    • jenavira says:

      WOODEN BOAT SHOW.

      (I apparently went to the wooden boat show in Mystic, CT when I was 18 months old. And then to the hospital in Mystic, CT with an ear infection. My parents bring this up every time talk about wanting to go to the boat show.)

  16. Räven says:

    It is so damn hot, my bread dough is rising faster than it should and not creating enough structure. I've put it in the fridge but I think it's going to be slack and overproofed when I bake it. I am so mad.

    Also it's so hot I basically ate chips and salsa for lunch, which wasn't what I wanted. Ugh. I know eating all the wrong things screws up my mood, but at the time I saw no alternative.

  17. Flitworth says:

    OK so my husband is watching old recordings of the Six Nations Rugby tourney and the referees have bodycams. They are angled vaguely downward so when they switch to it during downtime it's a junk-cam of men adjusting their shorts and the contents within while waiting for the next play. Hilarious. Also, I have a 500mL juice box of wine.

  18. MLISCostFan says:

    Quarter end and data for Feds audit, moving work stations, CPU died, replacement CPU calls to IT. Dies.

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