Friday Open Thread

Clever Manka, · Categories: Open Thread

You would be surprised how many gifs show up on a search for “groundhog” that are actually gophers and prairie dogs.

Happy Groundhog Day! It is always cloudy SUNNY! I meant it’s always sunny on February 2 here. Does everyone have the “six more weeks of winter” or is that pretty much just a U.S. thing?


178 Responses to “Friday Open Thread”

  1. CleverManka says:

    Everyone send best-luck vibes to Lee who is interviewing this morning! It's at noon, EST!

  2. mckitterick says:

    Whoah, it's sunny on Groundhog Day? Does that mean WINTER IS OVER?

  3. vladazhael says:

    I thought groundhogs and woodchucks and gophers were all the same? Or is it just the first two? (I KNOW it's at least the first two).

    Lee's good interview vibes are top priority, but if anyone has spare vibes after that, I could use some for a housing thing Manfriend will be trying to charm his way through tomorrow morning.

    Yesterday was the one year anniversary of my tube tying, so tomorrow I will be celebrating Mule Day with one or more friends, chiefly the one who helped me during my hospital venture and recovery, who is herself recovering from knee surgery. Last year we binge watched the Netflix remake of One Day At A Time, and now season 2 is out, so we'll likely watch a good chunk of that.

  4. Doc_Paradise says:

    Sunny and blue skies here. Also everything is covered in ice.

  5. Heathered says:

    I just saw that The Toast archives may become part of the Library of Congress. Also, something smells weird in my apartment and I can't figure out what it is. Not terrible, either, just…weird.

    • SquirrelGirl says:

      Maybe an old, forgotten po-ta-to?

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      That is so cool! I know some people who work there, specializing in folklore and similar areas.

      Also, yes, potato? Or possibly stinky trash? Or a gross drain?

    • RoseCamelia says:

      Sorry about your apartment smell. Put out bowls of baking soda? Pour white vinegar down every drain? Spray damp areas with Lysol?

    • Absotively says:

      If you have exhaust fans in your bathroom and above your stove, maybe turn them on for a bit? It might reduce the smell in spots that aren't near the smelly thing, making it easier to locate & identify.

    • Heathered says:

      So far the smell remains a mystery, but I did enjoy shoving my face into drains and potato bags to be sure.

    • CleverManka says:

      I saw that! I'm not sure if I hope the comments are archived as well, or if I hope they're not. I think they probably aren't, but…

      • Absotively says:

        I mean, the Library of Congress was attempting to archive all Tweets until quite recently, so I don't think they're especially inclined to omit online discussions from their archives.

        • Rillquiet says:

          The commentariat was such an integral part of The Toast RIP's gestalt that it's hard to picture omitting them. It would be most unfair to archive pieces full of deleted comments (ahh, books literally all white men own, we knew ye) and not preserve the comments that were actually excellent!

          • Räven says:

            Oh heavens I have just recalled my rabid defense of Bourdain's reference to "bodega coffee" in the face of people who first thought he was boasting about local fancy coffee (New Yorkers think they're so special like they have coffee with its own name like they're so great muttermuttermutter) and then on learning it isn't fancy, were even MORE enraged that he didn't use the correct terms from their states like "gas station coffee" or "7-11 coffee" which aren't things we have here. God I hope that's preserved forever in the LoC.

          • Rillquiet says:

            My wicked glee at the reactions to a comment reporting that Michael Bay would direct the Black Widow movie keeps me warm on the cold nights. We BELONG in a MUSEUM.

          • CleverManka says:

            Remember when we were all stunned into about five minutes of silence when we realized how many people were actually reading the site? And we'd all been just…kinda oblivious to the fact that the readership went way beyond our cozy commenting community?

            …okay I just looked through all the responses to her tweet and two people asked if it included comments but she didn't respond.

          • Rillquiet says:

            A friend of mine, a classics professor, said later that she'd never dared to comment because the level of smarts intimidated her. SHE HAS A PHD. SHE READS GREEK. We were making dumb puns and imagining celebrities were our significant others! It boggled the mind and still does.

  6. RoseCamelia says:

    As I've mentioned before, my mother-in-law visits Mr Rose and me in Texas every winter for 2 or 3 months. This year I planned to get away during that time, to give myself some alone time, let Mr Rose tend to his mom on his own. So I carefully chose a house sitting gig near Boston where I used to work. With dogs!

    The homeowner waited until I arrived to tell me one of her friends has moved in temporarily. This woman was in a housing bind and the homeowner is being kind. I can go along with that. Especially since it's a big house.

    Then the homeowner mentions that her college student son will be home for 3 days during my stay. And he brought 3 friends.

    Oh, and the homeowner never locks her doors. In a Boston suburb. I was instructed to keep them unlocked. You know, because so many people come and go so often. Mr Rose was not pleased to hear about this. I woke with a start every time the radiators made noise at night, thinking someone was coming in one of the five exterior doors.

    Mankanauts, I had only 12 hours of solitude during the whole week. But at least I got to return to a favorite haunt, The Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum.

    And the dogs were affectionate, cute, and adorable.

    • jenavira says:

      That is Terrifying, I would never be able to sleep in a strange house with the doors unlocked. But. The Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum! That's on my bucket list for sure.

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      Are you at least getting paid?

      • RoseCamelia says:

        No money, and that's why I'm peeved! It's supposed to be an even trade. She gets dog care and house sitting for free and this solitary witch gets free housing, dogs to dote on, and vacation of Alone Time! Supposed to be.

        • Kazoogrrl says:

          Hopefully you can review and mention the uneven switcheroo and unsafe key situation!

        • CleverManka says:

          That is SUPER uncool of the friend. Boo. I'm sorry your lovely alone time plans got scuttled. ETA: Oh, wait, I just realized this isn't a friend and UGGHHHHHHH. I wish you could just bail.

          • RoseCamelia says:

            The homeowner texted to ask if I would return for her next travel date. I allowed an hour to pass before i replied it would not work with my calendar. I never actually looked at my calendar. I was screaming internally: No, hell no, and damn hell no!

          • CleverManka says:

            You are such a gentle, gracious person and this world does not deserve you.

    • Absotively says:


      I'm glad to hear about the museum and the dogs, and I'm glad to hear that the rest of it is at least behind you!

    • Räven says:

      Good fucken lord. Sharing a house with five strangers is not a great surprise. Thank heaven for cute dogs.

    • Absotively says:

      Oh, also: does the housesitting website/service/whatever at least let you leave a review, so future potential housesitters can be warned?

    • Heathered says:

      Oh, GARBAGE. I'm sorry to hear things went so spectacularly sideways. When I was desperate to find a place here in town I spoke to a woman who was renting a room, but kept adding in factoids like how she used the house to sell one of those nutrition scam products, and her son stayed there whenever he felt like it and "usually respects boundaries around cleaning and other people's food," etc., etc. She also didn't lock doors, in a neighborhood where break-ins are routine. Who ARE these people?

  7. Kazoogrrl says:

    I'm always, no matter what it's 6 more weeks of winter because it's FEBRUARY IN MARYLAND, PEOPLE!!

    So last night I went to see Wardruna, I got tickets with a friend on a whim. The unfamiliar might recognize them from Vikings (S2 I think), if not here is a sample of what they do best, with lyric translated in the video description, and there are tons of live videos. It was a really good show, my friend is a Norse leaning pagan so for her it hit a spiritual sweet spot. There was quite a lot of Bro-satru (Bro + Asatru) about, including a guy yelling "Odin!" behind us. I also made a mental Bingo game, where I fulfilled the witchy black flow-y outfit spot. It also included such things as beard beds, pelts, Viking reenactment outfits, runes, hair braids, more runes, etc.

    What was awesome was the singer's low key pointed remarks, first when he said it took a lot of paperwork to get them here, but it was ok because America likes Norwegians. Then he talked about how they are not trying to recreate a romanticized past, but to use their roots to create something new, which I took as side-eye to white supremacy masquerading as Heathen re-constructionism.

    Anyway, I also ordered $600 worth of shoes to try for my trip, but right now I'm not sold on any of them except maybe the $180 Naots, and oof, that was more than I wanted to spend. This weekend is all about shopping for last travel bits, and putting together an agenda with all relevant times/places/addresses/contact info, and getting together a list of everything I want to have printed out in case my phone doesn't work there.

    • vladazhael says:

      which I took as side-eye to white supremacy masquerading as Heathen re-constructionism

      Yeah, from what I hear they have been SUPER clear that they are not about such nonsense. Which I love. Manfriend is a fan and I'm sure will be quite jealous when I tell him you got to see them live.

      • Kazoogrrl says:

        A few years ago my pagan friend asked around her community and got the non-racist all clear, ok to support info. Einar taught at a convention here a few years ago, now I regret not going.

    • CleverManka says:

      Hurray for a great concert experience. I don't think I'd have been able to hold it together without laughing at shouts of "Odin!" at a concert, tho…

      • Kazoogrrl says:

        I have a friend who, when he gets drunk, will be "Shitty Odin" by holding a hand over one eye and saying troll-ish stuff, and we goad him on. There is a running group in-joke about Shitty Odin's exploits. At the show, there was also a guy next to me who kept yelling "Amen!", when ever the singer said something he liked. I was thinking, wrong place, dude. Between the two, my friend and I were howling.

    • LaxMom says:

      Seriously, I'm in ohio. I've had 5 ft of snow overnight on Earth Day. 6 weeks would be bare minimum winter extent.

      Heck, every couple of years it snows on mother's day in May.

  8. CleverManka says:

    Heyyyyyyyy so I got to work and was presented with a crisis and then a second crisis popped its head up so I'm probably gonna be quiet here until I'm home at 1:00. I'll approve comments as I can until then.

  9. Lynn says:

    Hi all! I was at a conference most of my work day Wednesday so didn't have time to pop in. Things are going reasonably well. We started Blue Apron this week and it actually went even better than I was hoping in terms of being both a satisfying meal that doesn't feel loaded down with grease and removing some of our mutual couple stress around mealtimes. Also we discovered the wonders of kale salad and roasted broccoli (in separate meals), which is probably good for us.

    Also my boss dropped yesterday that I can move to one of the cubicles with taller walls and a sliding door if I want, because the already busy traffic around my current cubicle is about to get worse due to filling of some empty offices right next to me. I appreciate that she remembered the concerns I raised when we moved to this office last year even though she couldn't do anything about it at the time (the cubicle I am moving to was initially earmarked for a position they decided not to fill). It is going to be the closest thing to a private office I have ever had in my professional life and get me away from our events staff — who though I like them as coworkers, have to be on the phone a lot, and invariably when I am on writing deadline.

    • jenavira says:

      Oooh, congratulations on your improved-privacy cube! I am jealous.

    • Kazoogrrl says:

      Yay private space! I'd kill for a cubicle, I work in an open office. At one job I had a private office, but it didn't balance out the toxic boss.

      • littleinfinity says:

        Yeah, open office plans can suck it. My office is like that too and I never thought I would pine for a cubicle but HERE WE ARE

    • CleverManka says:

      Fuck Yeah private office space!

      What good news that Blue Apron is working for you! Good, happy eating is so important. Are you getting daily meals? What's been your favorite thing on the menu so far?

      • Lynn says:

        We're starting with two meals a week just because there are days neither of us feels like cooking or just want to pop something into the microwave and we wanted the ability to work around those days without wasting the food.

        Our second night we had this grilled chicken with a salad that was kale marinated in a dressing of tahini and chili paste, sliced oranges and radishes, and roasted potato wedges, topped with avocado. AMAZING. I was dubious about the potatoes in the salad, but they actually were the perfect complement to the spiciness of the dressing and the radishes. It was also surprisingly filling even though it said it was only about 650 calories per serving. It's convinced us to be a little more adventurous with our menu selections. (Boyfriend has agreed to try an Chinese inspired stir fry in a couple weeks and he doesn't really care for any kind of Asian food.)

        • CleverManka says:

          That salad sounds amazeballs. What a fascinating combo of flavor and texture!

        • dirtymagpie says:

          I'm glad it's working for you. I tried Blue Apron from a friend's discount starter, and although the meals were very tasty, it was just too much preparation for my abilities. I really liked the ribeye steak meal.
          I may give a try to a different one called Chefly where the meals arrive all prepped and cooked.

  10. jenavira says:

    Depression is awful and boring.

    I have been monitoring Kitten Academy ("Where kittens learn to cat") for a full week, waiting for the very pregnant momcat to give birth, which they announced would probably happen "any minute now" last weekend. She is apparently undisturbed. On a more topical cute animal note, is this a groundhog or a prairie dog or what? (Clearly it is Wise.) Anyone else have go-to cute animal resources?

    It's supposed to snow this weekend. (Well, my weekend, which is Sunday-Monday.) I would dearly love to spend the whole time at home working on art and possibly writing, but it looks like I'm gonna have to take my car in to the mechanic. If I can ever get ahold of them to confirm that they have the parts they need and it wouldn't be a wasted trip.

  11. Räven says:

    Wishing us all the homes and jobs and private working spaces we deserve. February is a SHORT month, and I feel good about ending it in all kinds of victory.

  12. Flitworth says:

    For the record, when I was a kid in PA our local news station live-reported Punxsutawney Phil every groundhog's day and I distinctly recall watching his handlers coax him out with Pepperidge Farm Milano cookies. That tiny groundlardbear will do anything for a sandwich cookie, including predict more winter.

    I have been too tired and burned out to follow up on any meta work-related/new-job-finding goals this month. We are planning a getaway weekend for 1st weekend in March – no animals, no kids, no chores. I might get to sleep in! All I wanted was a hotel that had a sauna so I could warm myself to the bone a few times but this doesn't appear to be a thing. Also, this is the first time I have not tried for the cheapest possible accommodations and I am baffled that people will pay a few extra hundred dollars for just a little more square footage? I always thought staying at a nice hotel with fancier rooms would mean fruit baskets and access to a sauna(!!!!!???) but this is wrong, apparently you get a window that doesn't face a brick wall, a few extra sq ft and that's it. *shrug*

    • jenavira says:

      That makes me much more generously inclined toward Punxsutawney Phil; I, too, would do just about anything for a sandwich cookie.

    • Absotively says:

      I have found that "nicer" hotels also often have more convenient locations, and are more likely to have in-room fridges, good water pressure, not-paper-thin walls, balconies, balcony furniture, a hotel gym, and a hotel pool (possibly with hot tub, which isn't a sauna but it's something). The odds of free wi-fi are much lower, though.

      I usually only stay at "nicer" hotels if I'm going to a con or something at them. The rest of the time I'm more likely to stay at a hostel than a cheap hotel, so my point of comparison may be screwy.

      • Flitworth says:

        Yea, I guess the location is a thing too. Again, like you, most of my travel involves couches, hostels and B&Bs and I am content to walk or take public transport from a fair distance. This is what happens when your understanding is from movies/tv.

        • Absotively says:

          It is nice to be able to walk to more things, I think, especially if you're in an interesting area to walk through.

          The other difference is that often all the stuff is slightly nicer, which isn't a big deal to me but I guess it's kind of nice. So, softer sheets, fluffier towels, more pillows, plusher carpet, etc.

          And maybe I'm wrong, and there are hotels with saunas somewhere? In which case, I hope you find one.

    • CleverManka says:

      Have you ever seen this video of a groundhog biting the mayor's ear in Sun Prairie, Wisconsin (2015)? I don't blame the poor thing, tbh.

      • Flitworth says:

        Clearly those charged with handling the groundhog didn't learn the first rule of groundhog club, which is 'cookies'. When that limo pulled up I was compelled to sing the first lines of Chamillionaire's Ridin' Dirty.

    • Onymous says:

      Wait. What if he has to be lured out by food because he's blind and he's just been guessing if he he could see his shadow this whole time?

    • dirtymagpie says:

      In lieu of a nicer hotel, is there possibly an AirBNB with the amenities you'd like?

  13. Absotively says:

    A couple weeks ago, both pairs of jeans that I had been wearing were in terrible shape, and the store where I buy them didn't have the cut I wanted in my size, so I bought some pants that were on sale for a very good price to tide me over and then ordered the jeans online.

    They arrived yesterday! And they have extra fancy butt pocket embroidery, which is not my usual jeans style, but I will get used to it. It does explain why they were $4 more than the ones with the other wash, though. I didn't even notice the extra embroidery until five minutes ago in the bathroom, somehow.

  14. CleverManka says:

    So after my absolute shit-show of a day at work, I'm pretty brain-dead but I'm gonna share my When I Met John Scalzi story here (in a reply). Then I'm gonna go shower so I can start putting henna on my roots because that's about all I'm good for at this point.

    • CleverManka says:

      Kansas City has an annual SF convention that always has various guests and one year it was Scalzi. We had all his books (because SF library) and since the Burgomaster was busy with other duties, I volunteered to be the one to get them all autographed.

      About fifteen minutes before his signing was supposed to start, I went up to the hotel room to get the books. Holding all the books (I think there were only like four at the time, fortunately, this was 2005), I got into the elevator to head back down, and…there was Scalzi in the elevator. We looked at each other and me with my armful of his books got in and did the appropriate elevator etiquette thing of not saying a word. We reached the bottom floor, exited the elevator and walked pretty much side by side across the entire lobby of the hotel to the conference room area. When we reached his signing table, there was nobody else in line yet (!) so he went around to his side of the table and I went around to mine and laid the books in front of him.

      "Hello! Would you please sign these?"

      He must have thought that was hilarious because (and I don't say this to brag) he spent most of his non-official-guest time hanging out with me (and a few others who came and went), chatting and snarking and laughing. Looking back, it was probably rude of me to monopolize him (to the other guests, anyway, he didn't seem to mind since he'd often search me out or call me from across the room). But man, he was funny. And sharp! So fast with quips and comebacks. I like to think I'm pretty quick on my feet when it comes to snappy conversation and he kept me on my toes the entire weekend. He said my humor reminded him of his wife and that we'd get along great which was cool to hear.

      I'm sure he doesn't even remember me now, but that was probably the most fun I ever had at a con.
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      • CleverManka says:

        I also have "when I met Cory Doctorow" and "when I met China Mieville" stories if anybody's ever interested. I promise I'm not a starfucker, I just happen to be in a relationship with a dude who has some SF connections.

        Okay off to shower. Back soon.

        • Kazoogrrl says:

          Please, with the China Mieville especially, because *sigh* so dreamy, in face and brain.

          Also, excellent etiquette, A++.

          • CleverManka says:

            Oh my god he is SO beautiful. And incredibly charismatic on top of the good looks.

            Okay, so he was here for a guest lecture in 2009 and afterward he went out drinking with a small select group (I got to ride in the car with him, even). This was back when I still Went Out every weekend (or nearly) and actually had A Regular Bar so we went there and hung out on the back deck for about three hours where he bummed a smoke off me and told me he really liked my eye makeup. He was also impressed when I commented on his multiple earrings and asked if he got them from the OctopusMe store on Etsy–which he had (and apparently I was one of the only other people he'd met who knew about the store without him telling them). And he applauded my choice of watering holes. That was a good night.
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            (tragically, all his piercings were on his left side so you can't see them but here's a pic where you can)

          • Kazoogrrl says:

            *more dreamy sighing*

        • Rillquiet says:

          Thanks for posting this! Now, if you and/or the Burgomaster ever get to meet Gene Wolfe, please gently sit on him until I can get there and sob out my gratitude for The Book of the New Sun. (Yes, it includes the world's strangest and arguably worst description of sex. I don't care. "My land is the land of the far horizons, of the wide sky"–he bought my heart.)

          • CleverManka says:

            The Burgomaster has met him and says maybe that's all you probably want to know if you like his books. =D ETA: He just said he only had one interaction with him, though, and maybe he was having a bad day like we all do, though?

          • Rillquiet says:

            Alas and alack. TBF, his more recent books have had content that made me side-eye very, VERY hard. But Book of the New Sun and, to a lesser extent, Book of the Long Sun are just so complicated and fractally beautiful, constantly unfurling years after I first read them. I keep learning random things that I realize were part of Wolfe's mythos, like that Alexander the Great planned to have his face carved into a mountain or that Apu-Punchau was the sun god of the Incas, and it always comes with a little prickle of pleased recognition.

        • Flitworth says:

          I am, in fact, here for this.

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          • CleverManka says:

            That is my FAVORITE Jason Momoa gif I love it so much. I posted the Mieville story above, so you get my Doctorow one.

            He was here in 2009 to accept the Campbell Award that he got that year for Little Brother. I had to pick him up at the airport because his plane got in the day of the awards banquet and nobody else was available (I hate driving to the airport and did not volunteer for this btw). It was a tight thing because his plane got in an hour before the awards banquet started and it's about an hour from Lawrence to the KC airport so I was a little stressed out. Miraculously, his plane arrived early and I sped like a demon to campus. We even arrived in time to drop off his bags first!

            On the way there, I suggested talking about anything other than SF/his writing since that's I'm sure what everybody wants to talk with him about so I asked him about his favorite foods. WELL it turned out to be a good thing I asked because he was (at the time) vegetarian and gluten-free. Which we did not know (at least, if he told anybody, that information was not relayed to me who was the person at the time in charge of the banquet food ordering and the catering for the conference the next day). Sooooo I went home after dropping him off, and cooked a meal for him so he'd have something to eat other than side dish vegetables (the vegetarian entree was lasagna OF COURSE). I also made his breakfast and lunch the next day.
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            Here we are, after dropping off his bags and smiling because we still had ten minutes to get to the banquet and I didn't get pulled over for going 20 to 30 mph over the speed limit on the Kansas turnpike.

          • Kazoogrrl says:

            Now that is excellent service!

    • dirtymagpie says:

      I love these stories!

  15. Kazoogrrl says:

    Oh! I made super simple but ridiculous stickers to hand out at the Hannibal convention.

  16. LaxMom says:

    wizard world is in a month exactly and I have no costume, no idea for a costume, and jason momoa will be there, along with John Barrowman and Gareth David-Lloyd.

    Today I ran late and missed the first grad senate meeting of the year because lake effect snow. But I met with one of my peers and we are making exciting plans to update labs to incorporate new stuff and it's nice to geek out over maps and imagery.

    Teengirl's friend probably has appendicitis but it's not official yet (they haven't given her her radiology results yet). Teengirl and Teenboy are concerned.
    Teenboy has a friend who has several younger siblings and her mom has cancer and he asked if it was ok if he was around less so that he could help them out.
    oof. Also he got accepted into college 2 and now we just go to honors breakfasts and wait for financial aid results.
    Today Teenboy pulled his graduation tassel out of his coat pocket. Shit's gettin' real.

    • CleverManka says:

      That is a GREAT guest line-up! I'm sure it will be amazing even if you wind up having to go in mundane clothes.

      So happy you connected with one of your fellow grad students! It's always nice to have people to geek out with.

    • Absotively says:

      Easy costume idea: Molly Weasley, being dragged to see some muggle thing by Arthur, in not-quite-right muggle clothes?

  17. Onymous says:

    What's the minimum number of cows you can have without them getting super miserable for lack of company do you think?

    • CleverManka says:

      I mean, if you're seriously serious, I know someone I could ask about this although I might not have an answer for you for a while because she is not great about checking email.

      • Onymous says:

        I mean vaguely serious? Like I am not on Craigslist pricing out pet cows at the moment but having the acreage for a couple is a goal. They are adorbs.

        • Onymous says:

          Or land backing up to BLM land, they charge ridiculously low rates to rent land by the animal so a couple cows would be even cheaper than buy a couple dozen acres and hay as necessary.

          • Räven says:

            I tried to look up where Black Lives Matter has invested in pasturable land and am now extremely disappointed.

            But I'm looking forward to seeing photos of your cows!

          • Onymous says:

            Don't hold your breath it's very much a long term goal, if my brother does move to ABQ and we end up in a house instead of an apartment ducks are absolutely happening but even that wouldn't be for months.

            Defo getting ducks eventually though.

          • Räven says:

            I am patient and can wait.

          • Lee Thomson says:


            what kind??

            upright? plain white Pekin? Big fat Muscovy? little mallards? Ducks. Yas, I love ducks.

          • Onymous says:

            I want a small fleet of the most obviously-a-dinosaur looking Muscovies I can find.

          • dirtymagpie says:

            I am hopeful to be inheriting land in Belen that backs up to National Forest .. if I'll still be healthy enough to move down there and build a little homestead.

        • CleverManka says:

          I wrote her and will let you know if/when I hear back.

      • LaxMom says:

        If you check out organic gardening magazine, they often have homesteading type articles like that. They usually recommend that you get small heritage breeds, because more fit on less land and they are easier to handle. Also because large production breeds give you 6 gallons of milk a day and just what are you going to do with 6 gallons a day?
        My goat was a 1/2 gal day, that's low output for her.
        Also check your local extension office website for info, if you are in the US.

        • Onymous says:

          I'm pretty capable of eating 6 gallons of yogurt a day. It's just one of those things where I'm like COW! on a regular basis but like they're herd animals so it's gotta be super stressful to be alone right?

          • LaxMom says:

            I only know goats. With them, its at least 2 goats. And it's an acre a goat for pasture.

          • Onymous says:

            Good to know for goats (a back up plan vs cows or Churro sheep) although I suspect BLM New Mexico has it's own acreage expectations (not that that's super important BLM charges per head not per acre)

    • Lee Thomson says:

      one with a goat friend or two, or three together

  18. phantom says:

    I mean we do it/pay attention to it in Canada, but I think that might just be because you do it.

    • CleverManka says:

      I think if the US is going to be exporting cultural stuff, I would like there to be more stuff like that and less like…everything else.

    • Räven says:

      In Canada isn't it pretty much bound to be six more weeks of winter? Like, in Sweden they sure don't ask this question on Feb 2. (I'm kind of astonished we do here tbh.)

      • phantom says:

        I mean in some warmer places it might also be 4 :p. But yes, it is rather strange now that you mention it. Since it rarely does become spring in February.

        • Räven says:

          Right? I mean in the northern US it can easily be ten more weeks of winter. That seems like more the question – is it ONLY six more weeks of winter, and mid-march will bring the thaw, which is pretty much a best-case scenario; or is it NOT only six more, and just resign yourself now to snow in April.

  19. Onymous says:

    I finally saw Thor Ragnarok.


    Though I kinda hope Hela gets some redemption, even if just a throw away line in a later movie.

  20. dirtymagpie says:

    Since it's a Pennsylvania Dutch thing, I thought it may have come over with the Germans who settled there, but I couldn't remember it being a thing over there. Perhaps alas, it's a myth, and just started with a newsfella in Puxatawny (sp, cos lazy) PA.
    I always laugh about it, because regardless of sun or shade, official Spring is always six weeks away on the Equinox.

  21. Lee Thomson says:

    What I tell people is if the groundhog sees a shadow, it is six more weeks of winter, otherwise spring will come in a month and a half.

    Easter is more confusing to me… if Christ comes out from under the bed with the dust bunnies and sees his shadow, is it another month of winter or what??

    • CleverManka says:

      if the groundhog sees a shadow, it is six more weeks of winter, otherwise spring will come in a month and a half
      I love it.

    • dirtymagpie says:

      I never understood Easter until I was a Pagan.. then it was like ohhhhh.. rabbits, I get it.
      Favorite blasphemous joke: "Why does the Easter Bunny hide the eggs?"
      "So no one knows he's been f**cking the chickens!"

  22. Onymous says:

    TFW you start discussing card houses and playing card structures and some how find your self in "Trump was a good idea to start" and "never Hillary-ism" conversation

    • Onymous says:

      Oh shit I think one of them is a pizzagater

    • Onymous says:

      I don't "blame" myself but I have spent 20 years seeing these conversations coming and steering away from them and I didn't see it today.

      Shit they are currently on a conspiracy killing Robin Williams, George Carlin, the singer from Linkin Park and somebody who might be Scott Wyland.

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